VincentLaw Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Easy, you paint all of the planes on one team red, and all the planes on the other team blue. As long as you are not using missiles, you should be close enough to see what color you are shooting at. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erawansujana Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Hi, I am new to this forum. My wish list for DCS's next project would be F-4 Phantom or F-14 Tomcat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share Posted November 24, 2011 Hi, I am new to this forum. My wish list for DCS's next project would be F-4 Phantom or F-14 Tomcat. Hello erawansujana,2 great picks! Welcome to the forum:thumbup: Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearitall Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) P-51D Moonbeam McSwine Sweet baby; Edited November 25, 2011 by Bearitall 1 www.virtualtuskegeeairmen.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I doubt ED would be doing propellers so suddenly, it looks more plausible to me that the flying legend would be a jet fighter/fighters. I expect it to include 2 fighters, the second one probably coming later with an add-on. So if I have to guess it would be F-4 and Mig-21. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 I doubt ED would be doing propellers so suddenly, it looks more plausible to me that the flying legend would be a jet fighter/fighters. I expect it to include 2 fighters, the second one probably coming later with an add-on. So if I have to guess it would be F-4 and Mig-21. :thumbup: Did you miss this post topol? A good start would be to research the TFC collection :) :) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTFDarkEagle Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 The TFC collection has no jets :) So it's bound to be a prop aircraft I think. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Did you miss this post topol? :) Definitely :D I don't even know what TFC is :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Definitely :D I don't even know what TFC is :P Let's just say the buck stops at TFC :D http://fighter-collection.com/pages.php Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Did you miss this post topol? :) Vast majority of people have missed it ;-) https://akaagar.github.io/briefing-room-for-dcs/ F-5E simpit project https://forum.dcs.world/topic/318106-f-5e-simpit-cockpit-dimensions-and-flight-controls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Definitely :D I don't even know what TFC is :P TFC - The Fighter Collection. Might have seen them associated with Eagle Dynamics... ;) Especially considering that the engine being used is "TFCSE - The Fighter Collection Simulation Engine"... :P "The Fighter Collection Simulation Engine (TFCSE), developed for TFC by its associate company, Eagle Dynamics," http://www.thebattlesim.com/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Back on topic: Phantom F4 is a real Flying Legend! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) TFC - The Fighter Collection. Might have seen them associated with Eagle Dynamics... ;) Especially considering that the engine being used is "TFCSE - The Fighter Collection Simulation Engine"... :P "The Fighter Collection Simulation Engine (TFCSE), developed for TFC by its associate company, Eagle Dynamics," http://www.thebattlesim.com/ Still don't get what does "The Fighter Collection Simulation Engine" has to do with propellers. In here http://www.thebattlesim.com it says it is integrated in Lock on. Damned crop-dusters... Why lose time and resources for one of them instead of investing them into DCS Fighter? When you draw the line which one will be sold more? Yeah that's right :) I mean just look at that in the TFC site: http://fighter-collection.com/pages/aircraft/nimrod/index.php no doubt it has its fans but come on are you really gonna buy and play DCS Crop-duster? Edited November 25, 2011 by topol-m 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 http://fighter-collection.com/pages.php See if you can find "Flying Legends" there. Hint: it's the air show TFC does several times a year with it's fleet of "Flying Legends". ;) As for DCS Fighter - work on that is continuing in parallell. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyTheLung Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Why lose time and resources for one of them instead of investing them into DCS Fighter? To make money... Is that a serious question(?):D System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 As for DCS Fighter - work on that is continuing in parallell. IIRC the "parallel" development of FC2 led to DCS A-10C delay, even though it was supposed to be "parallel" :) To make money... Is that a serious question(?):D Well some things make more money than others, to put it that way which one do you think would make more money DCS: F-16 or DCS: Crop-duster? You'd say the DCS Fighter is already in development but after it I'd prefer to see DCS Apache or DCS Cobra or DCS "Whatever modern helicopter or plane" instead of a crop-duster, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this. All of these ^^ eventual DCS modules would make more money. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 IIRC the "parallel" development of FC2 led to DCS A-10C delay, even though it was supposed to be "parallel" Incorrect. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Incorrect. ;) lol don't make me go to the archives and interviews... "next module 9 months after Black Shark's release"? Anyone? Edited November 25, 2011 by topol-m [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) lol don't make me go to the archives and interviews... "next module 9 months after Black Shark's release"? Anyone? FC2 had nothing to do with that. ;) Here's the thing: 9 months might have been possible and probably still is: but only if it assumes that there are no ambitions at all to advance the underlying technology. For example, if that's what you wanted, there'd not be the new sound engine, no self-shadowing cockpits, no HDR, no normal maps, no EDGE, no nothing. (From my own understanding of course, I'm not a programmer so my word is not gospel, but you are looking at the difference between making an FSX addon aircraft and making a new MSFS...) Edited November 25, 2011 by EtherealN [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) FC2 had nothing to do with that. ;) Here's the thing: 9 months might have been possible and probably still is: but only if it assumes that there are no ambitions at all to advance the underlying technology. For example, if that's what you wanted, there'd not be the new sound engine, no self-shadowing cockpits, no HDR, no normal maps, no EDGE, no nothing. (From my own understanding of course, I'm not a programmer so my word is not gospel, but you are looking at the difference between making an FSX addon aircraft and making a new MSFS...) Certainly putting all the people working on other projects ...cough FC2 cough... could have sped up the process cause from December 2008 (or March 2009 depending on the version) to February 2011 it was way more than 9 months. Saying these people would not have helped at all for an earlier release is not serious, yes maybe not as far as 9 months but certainly would have helped released it earlier than it was actually released. So FC2 development slowed down A-10C even if you don't want to admit it :) Edited November 25, 2011 by topol-m [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Certainly putting all the people working on other projects ...cough FC2 cough... could have sped up the process cause from December 2008 (or March 2009 depending on the version) to February 2011 it was way more than 9 months. Saying these people would not have helped at all for an earlier release is not serious, yes maybe not as far as 9 months but certainly would have helped released it earlier than it was actually released. So FC2 development slowed down A-10C even if you don't want to admit it :) If the flight models and avionics for DCS:Next are still being made, and until those areas are done work can't be carried out on 3d models or weapons, how would taking a 3d model artist or weapons programmer off another project help speed up DCS:Next? Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Certainly putting all the people working on other projects could have sped up the process... Saying these people would not have helped at all for an earlier release is not serious No offense, but this is just not how real software development works. Adding people after the project has been started actually slows down the process, it's a common and widely known fact in the software development world. For more information, research "The Mythical Man-Month". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Thanks for the link, I'll read the info. Fact is fact though DCS A-10C should have been released in 2009 yet it got released in 2011. From what I've read as of February 2010 the testers were testing FC2 and A-10C hasn't been ready even for testing (info from a tester). Whatever it was the reason for the huge delay it's a past story right now I sincerely hope the next DCS Fighter would not be delayed by all the projects developed in "parallel". Not that someone will admit it if it happens, form what I read in the DCS A-10C 60+ pages thread it was never officially stated why the Hog got delayed so much. Not that such details are so important even if I'd love to have more openness and honesty on these forums. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Should have been released in 2009 according to YOUR schedule. Remember: back then, the plan was for A-10A, not C, and AH-64A was also there. ;) Here's the thing: the A-10C was not delayed beyond that it didn't make the X-mas 2010 release plan. That's it. You are suffering from selective memory and mixing up disparate sources of "information". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Should have been released in 2009 according to YOUR schedule. Remember: back then, the plan was for A-10A, not C, and AH-64A was also there. ;) Here's the thing: the A-10C was not delayed beyond that it didn't make the X-mas 2010 release plan. That's it. You are suffering from selective memory and mixing up disparate sources of "information". Well what is this then? http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=681118&postcount=285 back then ^^ it was not about DCS A-10A but about DCS A-10C. If there is one source of information I'm sure about it's gonna be GGTharos. Be honest about it, I think my eyes are not lying to me when I read this, and certainly Tharos is not mentioning "MY schedule". Edited November 25, 2011 by topol-m [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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